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The crew of last year’s Failboats!! Watch as LSU’s Glenn Dorsey wins the Nagurski Trophy over Failboat James Laurinaitis as the nations best defender [link] This game feels like the third or fourth Super Bowl the Bills were in: you try to convince yourself that Ohio State might have a chance and this could be…
The crew of last year’s Failboats!!
Watch as LSU’s Glenn Dorsey wins the Nagurski Trophy over Failboat James Laurinaitis as the nations best defender [link]
This game feels like the third or fourth Super Bowl the Bills were in: you try to convince yourself that Ohio State might have a chance and this could be a good game, but you know they’re probably gonna get their ass kicked.
Speed is just not a Big 10 thing, sorry.
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Anybody remember Bill Duff? tOSU, anybody?
It’s all supposed to go in cycles right? Why is it that the cycle always has the Big 10 on the down side of it?
At least with the Bills, they are in the tough conference now. It changes.
But with the Buckeyes it’s always the same. 0-8, brutha, 0-8
Yeah, but if there’s anything Herbie’s right on (and it ain’t much), it’s that you couldn’t ask for a better scenario to throw them into as a motivator. The more people write them off (like people did last year with Florida), the more they’re just going to get amped up to shock the world. Be careful.
@3 Yeah, that’s what I don’t understand. There aren’t a lot of people (outside of the Big Ten) that want OSU to win this game, and yet everyone is making the “mistake” of taking a whole lot of shit,just like last year. I understand that people want to trash Ohio State, but really, it is very reasonable to assume that the Buckeyes will turn that same garbage into motivation just like the Gators did last year.
Hmmm…. Ohio State sends more productive athletes to the NFL than Tennessee (Gawd knows), LSU, Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Georgia or even – gulp! – Florida.
Based on the flawless analysis provided in this “post,” it would appear that the NFL values hulking, uninspired, slow players in the first and second rounds. Interesting.
I know how difficult it must be to wear International Orange with a straight face and cheer on a program that no longer competes as a national power and can’t consistently beat its rivals. Perhaps mathematical analysis doesn’t come naturally in Knoxville (do you have to go to Nashville to get that?). Nonetheless, it doesn’t take a Vandy grad to figure out that there is no difference – none whatsoever – in the 40-yard dash times between Ohio State’s players and any SEC team’s players. (Well, most of them, anyway. There’s always slow-footed Ole Miss.) All these schools recruit top-flight athletes. They can all run, they can all bench press a Buick, and they can all find tutors to do their work for them (you Big Orange folks know what I’m talking about).
Ohio State loses to Florida, and the Big T(elev)en wins the other two Big 10/SEC matchups, but the Florida game is indicative of the SEC’s massive speed superiority? What? If Tennessee loses against Wisconsin this year (and they will), what does that indicate? Surely only a bad day at the office, because no Big T(elev)en school could possibly be as fast – or as talented – as an SEC squad.
Ohio State was beaten last year by a motivated, well-coached and magnificently well-prepared Florida team. It happens. If Ohio State is fortunate enough to avenge last year’s loss by beating LSU and its (probably) mentally unbalanced head coach, I won’t be waiting by the phone to field your calls praising that well-known, nationally-recognized Big T(elev)en speed.
That would be like me assuming that Florida must be faster and more talented than Tennessee, because the Vols couldn’t beat the Gators with a stick. Perhaps those close calls against Kentucky and Vanderbilt mean that Tennessee’s talent is comparable to those schools, and not worthy of a supposedly elite program?
No. That couldn’t possibly be.
@5 where do you get speed from? tOSU just sucks
@5, I fell asleep halfway through your ignorant tirade…
A-because it was boring
B-because it was extremely incorrect
C-because I think I have ADD
ADD aside, that was the dumbest 6 paragraphs of garbage I have read on the blog… period
The Big 10 is not even a 2 tier Conf. in most fans minds, much less competitive with the SEC.
Tennessee, Auburn, Florida, LSU, Georgia, and perhaps Arkansas would have grabbed their drank and their 2 step… then danced through the year virtually unharmed in the Big 10.
Take my advice, keep trying to get better in the “Big10/ACC Challenge” in hoop, because competing outside your conf. in football is a task you’re not ready to handle.
@5 It’s your future…I see…Notre Dame.
@5…nice run down-I particularly enjoyed the reading
Penn State 20 – Tennessee 10
@10
Appy State/Minnesota any of theMAC teams that the Big 10 loads up on….
Go away pussy
@5…jesus doood, do you type with all 10 fingers? That comment was as boring as a Failboat Michigan game
@11 though I firmly believe the Big 10 sucks more than the SEC, The SEC does load up on the Sun Belt and Alabama choked on ULM..
Arkansas State? Mississippi State? Louisiana-Lafayette? Only the mighty Vols would risk scheduling such an amazingly tough slate of non-conference opponents. Shit, that’s like playing the New England Patriots every bloody week that is.
Then there’s your loss to 6-6 Cal… way to show the Pac 10 just how dominating the SEC is. Congrats!
Penn State 20 – Tennessee 10
@14 Miss St is in the SEC, dumbass.
Right, I meant Southern Miss, my bad.
Penn State 20 – Tennessee 10
I am sure Illinois will “teach” Southern Cal a lesson in “Big 10” football ass-whippings
Southern Miss, would kick 90% of the Big 10’s asses.
take the slow plodding big 10 smack talk elsewhere
What in the fuck does the NFL have to do with howm much the Big 10 and specifically the OSU Suck?
It just means the NFL is fucked up too
@5 Sorry, I got through the first 2 sentences of that fine soliloquy on Ohio State football and went to sleep. Besides, let me know who was the last OSU QB to actually win a Super Bowl since you wanna talk about the NFL.
Back to college, I still think that the title game against Miami was a clear robbery. I guess Woody passed down “fiscal responsibility to your game’s officiating crew” because that’s the only way you won that game. That and Willis’s knee getting torn to shredded meat.
This is the only thing that I will ever agree with Skip Bayless with…
SEC homers whine about B10, yet funny how they can’t avoid attacking THAT particular conference. Methinks a little jealousy is afoot. And of course, none of you will show your sissy faces after OSU stuffs a bag of buckeyes up the asses of LSU in the BCS. You’ll all cry about some referee payoff while LSU wide-legs themselves back to the bayou.
OSU is the PREMIER college program, bar none. We fart in your general direction, so take your stupid SEC pussy heads and cluster fork each other across the trailer park. You’ll be throwing your tater tots on Jan 7…soiling your diapers…and sucking your…uh, thumbs (or other tiny bodily protrusions) as you crybaby your way back to the grill for another helping of squirrel nuts.
GO BUCKS!!!
SEC SUCKS!!!
@ Jai Eugene I’ll be the first person to agree that IL has no business in the Rose Bowl. I’m much rather see Georgia vs. USC. But I, like you, am not on the Rose Bowl committee so it is was it is. That said let’s say that Trojans win 66 – 3 over the Illini, guess what happens then?
The score of the 2007 Outback Bowl will still be, Penn State 20 – Tennessee 10
But then the Rose Bowl doesn’t start until later in the afternoon so by then I might be saying, “Wisconsin 20 – Tennessee 10”
who can forget UT 20 Failboats 14? Since we are talking bowl records? UT 41 Michigan 17?
Failboats 0-8 in Bowls vs SEC? Come back when the Failboats actually win a game versus a real team….
I’m glad that you can use Ohio State’s piss poor record against SEC teams to help you endure losing to other Big10 teams, like say in last years Outback Bowl.
Perhaps you can write down, “UT 20 – Failboats 14” on a scrap of paper and keep it with you so that you can look at it and clam your nerves just in case Wisconsin starts to go up big on UT in the ’08 Outback Bowl.
Penn State 20 – Tennessee 10
Like I said before, these SEC homers need something to calm their nerves in this year’s bowl season…and a healthy serving of squirrel nuts should do the trick. The only thing they’ll have to use as sauce will be their own salty tears over the popping of the SEC Speed balloon…especially when Beanie Wells uses his slow plodding feet and jackhammer stiff arms to negate any speed they might use to get to him. What the crap use is speed if you are only rewarded with a hand-tatoo on your face for it? After a few of those, they will be LOOKING for ways to be “slower to the ball”.
And by the way…the Illini are going to STUN the Trojans! People think they don’t belong in the Rose? USC had wins over only THREE teams with winning records!!!! And don’t even mention Stanford, who took a big dump right in the Trojan helmet this year! They are gonna wish they’d never heard of the Juice!
Nuff said!
Go Bucks! They win it (semi) big: OSU 35, LSU 13
@25 you may be more delusional than Angry Eer
Jai @24? Catch and release? That one is a keeper
Was Washington delusional when he crossed the Delaware? Was Patton delusional when he full fronted half the German Panzer division? Was Reagan delusional when he said, “Tear down that wall?”
Was your daddy delusional when he crammed that SEC banner up yer heiney hole and made you squeal?
No! No! No! A thousand times NO!! But at least your daddy was making a good point…the SEC is just lining the walls of somebody’s poopie hole and resides just below the tiny scrotum of its adherents!
Dublinscrotum,
What….. in the fuck, is your point?
Penn State beat Tennessee last year, congratulations.
Im afraid, however, that is only one game.
I understand you, as a Big 10 fluffer, only have games such as that to hold on to… and one post may have been ok. To type the score of one game in EVERY post is a bit retarded.
I’m not quite sure why you’re here, really.
3 national championship games in 5 years
Last 5 years…
Big Ten played SEC in 14 Bowl Games….
Records?
Big Ten 8 wins…..SEC 6….
That’s terrific and all, Erie…
But the Bucks are Ohfer versus the SEC in the only post season game that matters…
Actually they all matter – which is why we can talk about how the Big Ten is actually better than the SEC (according to actual on the field records). (Also don’t forget, most of these games are played in the home state of the SEC team. The Big Ten has had 9 “road” games in the last two years alone, the next conference with this many isn’t even close – in fact the SEC has had 1 in two years)
Lets also speak to the reason these “Schools” exist, to give their students the best possible education. I know the SEC does not like to go here but…. lets take a look at overall rankings(2008 U.S. News and World Report):
14. Northwestern – Big Ten
19. Vandy – SEC
25. Michigan – Big Ten
38. Wisconsin – Big Ten
38. Illinois – Big Ten
48. Penn State – Big Ten
49. Florida – SEC – (Yeah – I finally reached a public SEC school!)
57. Ohio State – Big Ten
59. Georgia – SEC
64. Purdue – Big Ten
64. Iowa – Big Ten
71. Minnesota – Big Ten
71. Michigan State – Big Ten
75. Indiana – Big Ten
So I have found all 11 Big Ten schools in the top 75 and have only run into 3 of the 12 SEC schools (and need to go past 90 before the next school shows up.)
LSU will beat OSU – but at least you will be parking my car and serving me dinner in ten years.
oh…and one last thing.
Education is just not an SEC thing, sorry
There is an academic blog somewhere on the internet. This one is primarily athletic, in case you didn’t notice.
UmAlumni, i could rend that post to ribbons from an academic standpoint if I so desired…
However, due to the respect for the rest of my brethren here at LWS I will spare them my correctional rhetoric of your errant presumptions…
Wow, I like the use of some large words to impress ‘your brethren’ – I wasn’t making presumptions – What I stated were FACTS (If you have some information to refute my points I would like to see it.)
Of course you have have nothing, again:
1. The Big Ten has won a majority of games against the SEC in the past five years.
2. The SEC has the worst schools of any major conference in the country.
I am still waiting for a post to refute these basic facts.
Facts, smacts…You couldn’t even get one of your “native sons” to leave the SEC to “come home”. How many other people turned you down?
You had to settle for a Big LEast wannabe to be your next head coach. Maybe he can help you beat the 1-AA schools in the future, unless you’ve wisely decided to not schedule them anymore.
Well, UMAlumni, I’ll take that challenge…
1. Is with out a doubt and indisputedly incorrect…
SEC vs. B-10 from 2001-2006: 12-11 (.522)…
While not domination, it is a winning record against the B-10 which is in direct conflict with you’re claim…
In other words…
You’re wrong…
So that baby has been put to bed…
For the rest of you fellas & gals reading this post, unless you would like an mildly in depth refutation on UM’s logic on ranking universities and colleges I suggest you stop reading here…
However, UM, I suggest you continue as you’ll see why you are wrong and perhaps learn something in the process…
2. I love this argument overall not just from a SEC vs. B-10 standpoint as we are discussing overall academia…
Which if you even had a slight inkling of post secondary education past your drunken stumble through UM you wouldn’t have started blathering about the US News report…
It’s pretty common knowledge throughout institutions of higher learning the fallacies, biases, and ever changing requirements and figures that are used in compiling those bogus ratings…
Even college ratings such as Baron’s or Princeton Review are viewed as unreliable when delving into the actual superiority of one institution over another…
Ratings pubs such as these base their reports on money, name, and skewed exclusiveness for the bulk of their rating material…
For example…
I’ll use an extremely high rated school in comparison to the ideally top academic SEC school in Vandy…
Stanford’s SAT ratings are skewed due to the pool they have chosen to pull entrants from…
Their habit along with other “top-rated” u’s is to cull from higher income families again skewing their numbers in standardized testing and awarding academic scholarships to these same people in order to continue their level in ratings pubs…
Schools will pull professors with big name research followings, but severely lack in the actual skill of teaching, again to maintain their level…
Schools higher presidents based on fundraising capabilities rather than ability to lead the University, again to maintain level…
For a better understanding of why these ratings are nearly worthless and for a better system of rating post secondary education, I suggest you take a look at an education report that I read back in September of last year…
College Rankings Reformed by Kevin Carey…
I have a copy of it right here on my desk, but you should be able to find it on-line for free…
Long story short, UMAlumni…
US News rankings and others such as those that are quoted by anybody in an academic comparison debate lose credibility immediately and have zero basis to back their argument…
Or perhaps in more simple terms…
Using that as a basis is like bringing a knife to a gun fight in higher education debate…
You’ll get blown away before you reach the line every time…
BTW – if you consider “brethren” to be a “big word” I would have to question the quality of a Michigan education…
gatorhippy,
It is not often that you will find be defending a UM alum but I really have to jump to his defense here.
He clearly stated: “1. The Big Ten has won a majority of games against the SEC in the past five years.”
To which you responded: “1. Is with out a doubt and indisputedly incorrect…SEC vs. B-10 from 2001-2006: 12-11 (.522)…You’re wrong…
Let’s do the math here.
2006 =1
2005 =2
2004 =3
2003 =4
2002 =5
Inherently flawed college rankings aside, if an SEC grad can’t even do simple math… 🙂
To say that the Big Ten is the weaker conference because one specific school has had recent difficulties winning a bowl game on the road is makes one appear ignorant. Both conferences have very strong teams that could win against (or lost to) any other team in div. I football on any given day.
Joe Fox? Hello? Are you Still Around? Did ANYTHING you predicted in December come true? Tennessee v. Wisconsin? Nope. You Lose Again.
Dumb hillbillies. The civil war was years ago. Plus your football players can barely read. Plus they cheat. You guys are cheating scoundrels. Big Ten rules! hillbillies drool!
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